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Teachers Sabotage Don’t Say Gay Law By Following It

JiggaJonson says...

Teacher here. It's made-up-nonsense. I don't give a shit what gender or sexual orientation a kid is and im CERTAINLY not going to try to convince anyone to change anything about themselves.

That said, I'm going to acknowledge that gay/trans people exist in authorship and literature as it arises. You can't read someone like Whitman (Leaves of Grass, arguably America's greatest poet) and not come across references to sexuality either implicit or explicit. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45472/i-sing-the-body-electric

It becomes relevant in passages like this:

5
This is the female form,
A divine nimbus exhales from it from head to foot,
It attracts with fierce undeniable attraction,
I am drawn by its breath as if I were no more than a helpless vapor, all falls aside but myself and it,
Books, art, religion, time, the visible and solid earth, and what was expected of heaven or fear’d of hell, are now consumed,
Mad filaments, ungovernable shoots play out of it, the response likewise ungovernable,
Hair, bosom, hips, bend of legs, negligent falling hands all diffused, mine too diffused,
Ebb stung by the flow and flow stung by the ebb, love-flesh swelling and deliciously aching,
Limitless limpid jets of love hot and enormous, quivering jelly of love, white-blow and delirious juice,
Bridegroom night of love working surely and softly into the prostrate dawn,
Undulating into the willing and yielding day,
Lost in the cleave of the clasping and sweet-flesh’d day.

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Maybe a conversation like:

"'Love flesh swelling' like he's in love with some woman and they...he...?"

"Probably not, he didn't have any serious female relationships as far as I am aware."

"But the title is 'The female form'"

"Well, it's possible, but it's not likely the case that he was talking about himself being in love with a woman. This poem is in the text but he wrote many other pieces about he-himself falling into and out of love with various men and we have letters documenting those relationships with his male significant others. Although, I'm not sure what to call them because gay marriage would have been illegal at the time. He's likely writing the poem in a way where he appreciates the female form and sees men who are drawn to it like the way I appreciate watching bees act obsessively driven to the middle of flowers. I like watching Bees in action, but that doesn't mean I'm going all pollen crazy, still I appreciate it for what it is."
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This is an example of how discussion of sexuality would come up in my classroom as I imagine it. Note how I'm not trying to convince the kid I'm talking to to turn gay like it's a big game of rainbow-red-rover or something. Nevertheless, knowing the author's sexual preference in this instance informs our understanding of the piece.


My own personal theory?
The people railing against things like this are the same shitheads that can't be bothered to read ANYTHING and instead giggle and guffaw at "hurhurhurhur he hadd'a boner" where I get to live an early stage of Idocracy.

Also, I agree that the "funky stuff" shouldn't be just avoided altogether. For goodness sake, just let teachers have the difficult conversation that everyone is avoiding. Reminds me of when Peggy Hill was struggling to say "Penis" when she was assigned sex ed.


luxintenebris said:

first, how prevalent are these gay symposiums?

been through several flights of kids and yet to hear of one elementary teacher leading a colloquy on homosexuality. very unlikely it's ever been a thing or was so mild or explained deftly it never became a thing.

and no doubt if there was, would have heard about it. case in point:


was asked, "what does 'funky stuff' in the song mean?"

"don't know sweetie. probably slang for 'love'. I'll look it up on the internet."

they listen and ask about EVERYTHING! no more Rick James on the ride home.

***come to think of it, probably wouldn't mind the help.***

Trump praises Putin's invasion of Ukraine as 'genius'

luxintenebris says...

pure hate porn.

vichy americans.

back bending, soul-selling, truth denying, exploitative snake-oilers.

but jesse's mom still loves him. doesn't agree w/him and wishes he'd listen more - but still cares for her little boy.

all these types - fox, the blaze, daily wire, & ilk - have put money ahead of country, fellow citizens or personal honor. purveyors of intellectual stupidity. like Amway of the airwaves.

door-to-door whores.

so don't listen to them.

BSR said:

Follow up: Fox News host rushes to do clean-up for Trump after he gushes over 'genius' Putin.

"While talking with fellow host Jesse Watters, Hegseth dismissed criticism of the former president for gushing about Putin by claiming he was only doing it to get a reaction out of the American media."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-2656771978/

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Why I Give Abortions

newtboy says...

I NOTICE YOU COMPLETELY IGNORED THE QUESTION OF HOW YOU GOT IT ALL SO BACKWARDS.

ANOTHER TOTALLY FAILURE BOB. RED HERRINGS AREN'T ANSWERS.

What? That's insanity. Are you saying the baby is fully formed at the instant of conception!? The train is fully formed before it rounds the bend, the pre-baby isn't. If you remove the visual obstruction the train is complete and functions fine, but not the "baby".

If I use your non logic, if I invest in a stock, I'm instantly a millionaire because that stock might make me one in the future. How about a loan...I'm going to be good for it!

The train doesn't exist before it's built. The baby doesn't exist until it's born. If you hear a clank on the tracks, it doesn't mean the train is built.

Anyone saying there's a heart at 6 weeks is a liar. As you said, no heartbeat without a heart, so anyone claiming there's a heartbeat at 6 weeks is a liar. Obstetricians and gynecologists and their national organizations agree, no matter what your friends the ultrasound technicians think.

When they write they observed a heartbeat at 6 weeks (can't be heard until 12-22 weeks when chambers and valves are formed) , absolutely they are liars. I'll gladly tell any you wish, there's no heart, there's barely a tube. It's not a functional heart until it pumps, which it never does at 6 weeks, or even 10.

Drs who hear it on the Doppler are listening at >12 weeks along, so they're stretching the truth, but not totally lying. By then, most heart structures exist, but aren't ready to pump yet.

Like I said, you got it backwards, you see the twitch in a "tube" at +-6 weeks, you HEAR it after 12-22 weeks on Doppler. You should know that if you really had the experience you claim....but you don't, so.....

Want to try again, this time address the question, if you are so experienced, why don't you know you SEE a twitch 6-18 weeks before you HEAR a PULSE? Why do you think you HEAR it first?

I'm going to expect another day or two of silence, followed by claims you answered this already, followed by another non sequitur argument ignoring the question of WHY ARE YOU SO WRONG!?

bobknight33 said:

If I use you useless logic......
When I hear the train from from around the bend and still un seen you are implying that the train does not exist unless I see it.


The only liar is that 8 inches between you ears.



The 40 or so OBGYN sonographers that I service over 19 years are are correct. They hear the heart beat. Can't have it unless you have one.

When they write in their report that the heart beat has been observed ( by sound) are you calling them liars?

If so they you are implying that the DRs who read the report and look at the doppler and confirm the heartbeat and then tell the patient this news, are wrong also?




Like I've said before You way the fuck out of your league on this.

Why I Give Abortions

bobknight33 says...

If I use you useless logic......
When I hear the train from from around the bend and still un seen you are implying that the train does not exist unless I see it.


The only liar is that 8 inches between you ears.



The 40 or so OBGYN sonographers that I service over 19 years are are correct. They hear the heart beat. Can't have it unless you have one.

When they write in their report that the heart beat has been observed ( by sound) are you calling them liars?

If so they you are implying that the DRs who read the report and look at the doppler and confirm the heartbeat and then tell the patient this news, are wrong also?




Like I've said before You way the fuck out of your league on this.

newtboy said:

You outright liar. (Nothing new)

Since you claimed you HEAR a beat BEFORE it can be SEEN, which is 100% backwards and something someone in the field should definitely know, you've been silent on that thread, hiding from your mistakes as usual.

Yes, facts are correct, you just didn't offer any. You gave your opinion based on ....who knows what, not medical science. Not reality.

You did not prove a thing, you rambled, listed your alleged career, claimed knowing doctors doesn't make you one, then said you know what your talking about because you know lots of doctors, etc. You gave no citations or backup for your claims, that there's a heart at 6 weeks, claims which I contradicted with multiple citations from medical sites, including instructions for the Doppler that contradicts you too.

You were proven wrong, and as usual you just hid from the thread. Try again.

And Kevin Bacon was in Footloose…

Schoolboy Arm Wrestling compilation

BSR says...

When I was younger I found that instead of keeping your hand in line with your arm, bend your hand at the wrist slightly forward and somehow there is an advantage. I noticed he does the same thing. HA! You should see the look on those girls faces on the take down!

spawnflagger said:

It seems (to me, I'm no expert) that he's keeping his arm relatively stiff, and using the momentum of his entire upper body to do the work to pull his opponents' arm down. I'm sure he's quite strong, but also has technique and fast reflexes.

Deep Dive Dubai - The World's Deepest Pool

Deep Dive Dubai - The World's Deepest Pool

Traveling Downwind Faster Than Windspeed

SFOGuy says...

I love how this bends my brain and makes me think.
Thank you!

*Promote

BTW, isn't "Joby" the company that just went public in a SPAC in Silicon Valley that was valued at around $6 billion? and is proposing a multi passenger electric taxi helicopter/plane that has actually gotten some flights in?

Hoverboard On The Street

spawnflagger says...

video is so fake.
why? physics.
(to take off and accelerate from a red light that fast, he'd need a much steeper forward angle, and the "pilot" would have to lean hard and bend his knees to even possibly keep balance, not nonchalantly stand vertical like it shows)

Piece of Bread falling over

Khufu says...

The thing that blows my mind here is that it's not actually being 'pulled' down, the well in space-time from the mass of the earth is distorting things in a way that, because the time is bending, even though it's sitting still on the counter, it's like the counter is accelerating upward pulling the bread down into the counter much like your head gets pulled back when gunning a stroked small block. Just WOW...

BSR said:

Gravity. It calls us all back to the earth. R.I.P. piece of bread.

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geo321 says...

Welcome to planet Earth where might is right and international laws don't mean shit. Unless you are a small country then your arm will be bended into submission

newtboy said:

Good luck with that. If you have the people with you it's possible, but not easy or painless.

Buttigieg Shuts Down Loaded Fox Question

newtboy says...

Bwaaahahaha. You are hilarious.

So daughter and little girls and employees and acquaintances and friend's wives forcible raping Donny quit, and mother lover Pence too, handing the job to Biden? Hate to tell you, it's Trump in the Whitehouse, genius.

Do you even know who the president is? Are you now claiming it's been Biden the last 4 years and that's why America has gone to shit? Lol. Nice try, your ilk might believe it.


Your plain stupid nickname isn't catching on...so sad. It's just a reminder of the disgusting woman abuser and daughter rapist Don is, and how bend over backwards ignorant Trumpists are to keep repeating baseless claims of PUBLIC abuse from a proven liar who made it up this year, not 12 years ago when he was elected VP or any time before or since. How much you wanna bet she was paid to make her accusation like so many others?
Keep it up, your like a constantly babbling commercial for Biden.

bobknight33 said:

And his name is Finger Banging Joe Biden.

Folded Man Stands Up Straight After 28 Years

Assembly of the worlds largest fusion reactor (ITER) begins

vil says...

Oh yes I take ITER as good news, but it still leaves us 20 - 40 years from a... well I wanted to write a commercial fusion plant, however that might be a trifle optimistic.

Lets say we are at best 20-40 years from a functional prototype of a commercialy viable plant.

ITER is very much a test, any way you bend it. DEMO is waiting for ITERs outcome. Of course ITER will work, tokamaks have operated since the 1960s, that is like claiming a rocket will almost certainly fly. Yet we still stand in awe when it does.

It took 50 years from Einsteins nearly blind-guess prediction of a physical phenomenon to fission power plants. 50 years from the Orvilles hops to jet passenger planes. 58 years from Ciolkovskys crazy drawings to a man in space. In my grandfathers lifetime we went from horse-drawn carriages to the SR-71.
In my lifetime we have gone from landing on the moon to almost maybe landing there again some time.

We are slowing down or the going is getting more difficult.

bcglorf said:

Good news and bad news then.



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